"RT" (rt-p)
09/05/2016 at 16:20 • Filed to: DD TRACK BURN, MIATA, TOYBARU, FiST
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"RT" (rt-p)
09/05/2016 at 16:20 • Filed to: DD TRACK BURN, MIATA, TOYBARU, FiST | 2
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The year is 2016, and you have some of Oppo’s favourite sport compacts to choose from.
DD, Track & Burn. Go!
Mazda MX-5, 155BHP 2.0 I4.
Toyota 86, 200BHP 2.0 F4.
Ford Fiesta ST, 180BHP 1.6 I4.
As always, you choose.
It’s a bit limiting to keep making these posts every week, so for now I’ll be dropping this series and posting other things instead. It was fun while it lasted though. Until next time, Oppo~
S65
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:19 |
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I’ll make the DD,Track,Burn posts instead. ;-)
Alex Zapata
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:22 |
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Can I track and DD two identical 86s and burn the other two?
Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:23 |
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Daily the 86, Track the Miata, Give the Fiesta to someone else because I kinda don’t fit.
not for canada - australian in disguise
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:24 |
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DD FiST
Track 86
Burn the hairdresser-mobile
CB
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:24 |
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DD the ST.
Track the 86.
Burn the Miata.
Easy.
Hot Takes Salesman
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:25 |
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Daily the Miata, track the ST for laughs, burn the Yota.
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:25 |
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Not even a question.
DD th Fist, because hatchback
Track Miata because M.I.A.T.A
burn Toyota because the world isn't flat.
Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:25 |
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Daily the ST
Track the Miata
Burn the FRS/BRZ/86
The Lurktastic Opponaught
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:26 |
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DD the fiesta. Front wheel drive in the snow and all.
Track the GT 86. It looked like a lot of fun on top gear.
Burn the miata. Without setting the seat on the floor pan, I'm still too tall to drive the damn things.
TysMagic
> Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
09/05/2016 at 16:28 |
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is this a honda joke?
Batman the Horse
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
09/05/2016 at 16:29 |
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What this guy said. He gets it.
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TysMagic
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:29 |
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dd FiST
track MX-5
burn 86
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TysMagic
> HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
09/05/2016 at 16:29 |
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samesies
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Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
> TysMagic
09/05/2016 at 16:29 |
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I’m not sure I fully understand your question.
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TysMagic
> Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
09/05/2016 at 16:32 |
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ehhh it’s a stretch - the FiST and Honda Fit have some similar traits and well nevermind it was a poorly made joke
FromCanadaWithLove
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:40 |
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DD the Miata, because an endless sky of storage.
Track the 86, because RWD coupe.
Burn the Fiesta ST, and have a fiesta while burning it.
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Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
> TysMagic
09/05/2016 at 16:42 |
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Being a hatchback, I tried to see if it was possible to put an actual human in the back seat with the front seat where I could actually sit. Couldn’t do it. Also, the seats were way too snug. The bolstering crushed my shoulders.
Bluecold
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:44 |
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I went on a holiday with friends and rented a Fiesta. I managed to burn myself on a scalding hot pipe going through the passenger compartiment. I literally get a blister from a hot piece of metal in the interior of a supposedly modern car.
Everyone who speaks highly of the Fiesta is wrong. Seating position is shit, rear visibility is shit, wheels are too large, three cilinder sounds and feels rough so you need to keep the revs up which just wastes gas. Also, solid rear end. Like a fucking cart.
For these reasons, the ST deserves to be burnt in worse ways than it burned me. With fire.
I’d also like to track the Miata and daily the GT86. Because a roof is nice if you don’t have a garage.
Nerd-Vol
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:50 |
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Daily the GT86
Track the Miata
Burn the ford.
dogisbadob
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:54 |
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DD Fiesta ST (4 door hatch with sunroof)
Track 86/FRS/BRZ
Burn Miata (too rusty)
IanZ - limited-slip indifferential
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:55 |
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Daily the Miata
Track the FiST
Burn the BRZ
interstate366, now In The Industry
> RT
09/05/2016 at 16:56 |
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DD Fiesta, because practicality.
Track 86, but after putting a supercharger on it.
Burn Miata, because I’m not a fan of convertibles.
Jarrett - [BRZ Boi]
> RT
09/05/2016 at 17:02 |
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DD the Miata in the summer. DD the FiST in the winter.
Track the BRZ.
If I have to burn one, it would be the FiST and I’d slap some sweet winters on the Miata for hilarity’s sake.
Too many M's
> RT
09/05/2016 at 17:03 |
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DD - FiST
Track - GT86
Burn - MX5
I need four seats for the most part. So the two seater must go.
The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock
> RT
09/05/2016 at 17:04 |
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Screw the FiST, I’ll take a NISMO rs over it any time.
Saying that:
DD: BRZ/GT86/FRS, no soft top wind noise to deal with.
Track: Miata, its light with a big after market for speed parts.
Burn: Fiesta, it is a shit fiesta.
Kanaric
> RT
09/05/2016 at 17:06 |
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I would rather have a GTI with PP over any of these and I am a VW hater.
Has power. (none of these cars do)
Has a front LSD (none of it’s competition does)
Has a 21st century transmission option (DCT).
I would both daily and track it.
After owning a WRX and then a Mustang GT I could never drive any car with 90s power again. Miata would probably need 200hp for me to like it, fiesta would have to have a LSD before we even talk, and the FRS would need at least 250. The only way I would consider a miata at it’s power level is if it had a high revving 1.6l engine like a blacktop 4age or the 1.8l 2ZZ. I do not want a car with a modern KA24DE.
What annoys me about the FRS is I could buy a 90s car that is superior to it, and I did... Skyline GTS-T. As good suspension, revs as good, significantly more power. As it sits I have 240whp on the car. Even a Silvia would be superior. It’s like if this were 1978 and I was considering buying a Mustang II when I could find a used Mach 1 from 1970. The car is like the AMERICAN S13-S14, not the proper JDM version.
Sorry for the post but I HATE modern Japanese cars. I believe they are in a state of severe malaise like the American industry in the late 70s.
I always hear of new cars “coming” to correct the malaise and they just don’t. Or they are just luxury cars at $70k+ because the Japanese think they are German now. Then Americans release shit like the Focus RS basically embarassing that entire country’s auto industry.
LongbowMkII
> RT
09/05/2016 at 17:15 |
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DD 86
Track Miata
Burn fiesta.
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LongbowMkII
> Kanaric
09/05/2016 at 17:16 |
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That's nice.
qbeezy
> RT
09/05/2016 at 17:20 |
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BURN THEM ALL.
Am I doing this rite?
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Kanaric
> LongbowMkII
09/05/2016 at 17:23 |
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Do you like malaise and “sport compacts” that were done better 15-25 years ago? All 3 of these cars were surpassed back then by other cars in the same price range adjusted for inflation.
S2000>MX5 Club ($30k for a fucking LSD?)
Silvia>86
The only one that is arguably an improvement is the Fiesta ST, but it’s not Japanese so that explains why.
This is the Japanese malaise era.
They even put the typical malaise engine in the Miata. The low revving econobox engine brought over from cars like the Pinto. The Miata should have a sports car engine with revs, not some shit from a Protege.
If you are going to respond type an actual argument rather than some post a child would make. Might as well have said dicks out for harambe.
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LongbowMkII
> Jarrett - [BRZ Boi]
09/05/2016 at 17:37 |
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Topless snow drifting. that is all.
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RT
> S65
09/05/2016 at 17:40 |
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Nice, I'll be looking forward to them.
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LongbowMkII
> Kanaric
09/05/2016 at 17:46 |
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That B6 was a true sports car engine. Ya got me.
It was out of a 323 rather than a protege, just FYI.
jasmits
> RT
09/05/2016 at 17:57 |
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It’s gotta be DD the Ford and track the 86 but I desperately want all three. I just feel like the charm of the convert able has a limited shelf life but the combo of fun and practicality in the FiST would only grow on me
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RT
> Kanaric
09/05/2016 at 18:09 |
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I’m fine with your long post, I see what you mean.
After the collapse of Japan’s bubble economy, they couldn’t really support as many ambitious or expensive designs due to limited funding.
As a result, the Japanese sports compact has died down a bit. That is not to say the quality of their cars is worse. Compare the Mazda 626 to the Mazda6 for instance, it’s a huge leap. Some brands have managed this better than others, but I wouldn’t call it malaise.
In the malaise era, most American cars were cobbled together and the management was atrocious. Engines were huge yet gutless, and everything was compromised. While the Japanese haven’t really returned to the same form as they were in the 90s, they are not anywhere close to this level. We live in an age where Corollas are being built to the same standard as a first gen Lexus LS, so it’s certainly not ‘malaise’.
While I agree with you for the most part, I don’t understand some of your complaints. Why is a ‘21st century transmission’ a good thing if it’s less involving than a manual? And power isn’t everything, the original inspiration for the Miata were low-powered classic British roadsters after all. Power =/= driving dynamics. Your complaint about the expensive Japanese cars didn’t make sense to me either. The Germans can do it, but all competition is healthy (and you cannot deny cars like the LFA are engineering masterpieces).
I’d have a S15 over a Toybaru any day. Modern Japanese cars are not as good as they were before, but they’re doing what they can. JDM exclusive models like the S660, Patrol and Crown are still going strong too.
Also the Fiesta ST and Focus RS are not very American, they’re both models originally designed by International divisions of Ford - making them more German than American.
Sorry for the long post myself, I just wanted to respond to all your points.
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RT
> jasmits
09/05/2016 at 18:12 |
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The charm of a convertible is seasonal. ;)
Logansteno: Bought a VW?
> RT
09/05/2016 at 18:14 |
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Daily the 86 in the form of a BRZ
Track the FiST
Burn the Miata solely because I don't fit :(
Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
> RT
09/05/2016 at 18:17 |
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DD the FiST
Track:?
Burn:?
I’ve driven the FRS, and it just feels unfinished. It’s fun, but you almost have to mod it. I haven’t driven the Miata, but I’m guessing it would be best suited for the track.
mazda616
> RT
09/05/2016 at 18:41 |
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DD FiST (because hatchback)
Track Miata (because convertible on track means fun)
Burn FR-S
Nothing against the FR-S. I just like the other two better.
bhtooefr
> mazda616
09/05/2016 at 19:38 |
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I think that’s the way to go.
shop-teacher
> RT
09/05/2016 at 19:48 |
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DD: Fiesta
Track: Toyoburu
Burn: Miata. I hate to burn the Miata, because I think it’s the best looking of all three, but I can’t get my legs under the steering wheel of those.
Axial
> RT
09/05/2016 at 21:38 |
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DD: Toyota 86 - has a roof.
Track: Miata - pretty much the only reason this car exists is for fun driving activities.
Burn: Fiesta ST - fuck the mini-minivan.
Autofixation
> RT
09/06/2016 at 01:23 |
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DD Toyobaru
Track Miata
Burn FiST
The Stig's former college room mate
> RT
09/06/2016 at 12:12 |
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DD fiesta because of practicality. hatchback!
track 86, because all it really needs is sticky tires and good brakes and it’s a very potent little track machine. 200 hp is plenty if you don’t have to slow down for corners
burn miata, because the non-enthusiast sees it as a girl car, and I don’t want to have to explain it to, or have my sexuality questioned by, every idiot that sees me drive it.
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IanZ - limited-slip indifferential
> RT
10/06/2016 at 12:31 |
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DD: Miata
Track: Fiesta
Burn: Toyobaru